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	<title>Comments on: Men and Church</title>
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		<title>By: Chad McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps young marrige has something to do with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps young marrige has something to do with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Canopy</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Canopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes male chauvinism can indirectly lead to men dropping out of the church.  For instance, if men think it beneath them to care for children in the Sunday school, the female teachers may not be able to control the boys and may concentrate on grooming the girls for leadership, so when the boys grow up they feel they don't have a place in the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes male chauvinism can indirectly lead to men dropping out of the church.  For instance, if men think it beneath them to care for children in the Sunday school, the female teachers may not be able to control the boys and may concentrate on grooming the girls for leadership, so when the boys grow up they feel they don&#8217;t have a place in the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Norton</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with McCain's view on the lack of a masculine aspect in most church's.  I am not a cryer and while secure in my own masculinity, I am not rushing to hold the hand of men not in my household.  Maybe this is an issue I have, but I tend to believe that most other men have the same problem.  My issue with most churches that I have been a guest in or attended myself is the loss of traditionalism.  More and more I am seeing capucino machines upon entry and hymns on slide projectors that I have never heard and sound ludacris.  Some play music that reminds me of dance clubs and bars.  Maybe they should trade the capucino machine for a light kit and smoke maker.  Also it may just be a South Georgia thing, but everyone down here seems to speak in tongues and no one bothers to translate.  I don't believe in tongues, I think they just want to hear their heads rattle in a forum of their choosing but whatever.  I am not saying that we need a mechanical bull on the pulpit, but a handshake and a greeting upon entry is enough touching for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with McCain&#8217;s view on the lack of a masculine aspect in most church&#8217;s.  I am not a cryer and while secure in my own masculinity, I am not rushing to hold the hand of men not in my household.  Maybe this is an issue I have, but I tend to believe that most other men have the same problem.  My issue with most churches that I have been a guest in or attended myself is the loss of traditionalism.  More and more I am seeing capucino machines upon entry and hymns on slide projectors that I have never heard and sound ludacris.  Some play music that reminds me of dance clubs and bars.  Maybe they should trade the capucino machine for a light kit and smoke maker.  Also it may just be a South Georgia thing, but everyone down here seems to speak in tongues and no one bothers to translate.  I don&#8217;t believe in tongues, I think they just want to hear their heads rattle in a forum of their choosing but whatever.  I am not saying that we need a mechanical bull on the pulpit, but a handshake and a greeting upon entry is enough touching for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Norsk</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>Norsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the femininzation of the church may have begun in the 1800s, the decline in male attendance and involvement in leadership in the church really accelerated in the 1960s, at least in North American protestantism.  This of course roughly corresponds with the ordination of women in many of the same denominations.  To make the politically incorrect but obvious link, is that really a surprise?  If men no longer are required to lead the church, is it really any surprise that they choose not to lead their families in faith either?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the femininzation of the church may have begun in the 1800s, the decline in male attendance and involvement in leadership in the church really accelerated in the 1960s, at least in North American protestantism.  This of course roughly corresponds with the ordination of women in many of the same denominations.  To make the politically incorrect but obvious link, is that really a surprise?  If men no longer are required to lead the church, is it really any surprise that they choose not to lead their families in faith either?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you are recalling correcty that would cover only the Anglican Church for a short period of time, we would have to view such a situation as abnormal in regards to Christendom.

My point is that in most of the situations where church attendance was mandatory it was generally men who made those regulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you are recalling correcty that would cover only the Anglican Church for a short period of time, we would have to view such a situation as abnormal in regards to Christendom.</p>
<p>My point is that in most of the situations where church attendance was mandatory it was generally men who made those regulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Canopy</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Canopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think by Queen Victoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think by Queen Victoria.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who were those laws put into place by?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who were those laws put into place by?</p>
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		<title>By: Canopy</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/142#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Canopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the modern separation of church and state had something to do with it.  I mean, in Victorian times, people could be fined for not going to church right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the modern separation of church and state had something to do with it.  I mean, in Victorian times, people could be fined for not going to church right?</p>
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