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	<title>Comments on: Christians Are Fruits</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fruit analagy is so incredibly useful.  Its almost like it was inspired.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fruit analagy is so incredibly useful.  Its almost like it was inspired.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Penrod</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/41/comment-page-1#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Penrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but what do you think of the points that are made (really only one major point)?</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/41/comment-page-1#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm fairly unqualified to answer that question.  The Seekers class at Mason has been the only older group of believers I've dealt with on a regular basis.  And they were still armed to the teeth and ready for spiritual battle.  

On the other hand I have noticed that people my age (say 25-30) who grew up in the church are pew potatos.  There's a situation I know of in which a group of people that age, who grew up in the church (and their spouses did as well, though not in this particular church) and who have the talent and skills to be leaders, many of them went to Restoration Bible colleges but they don't do anything.  It makes me want to scream.  I'd probably get fired if I were the minister there because I'd want to just scream at them.  These people should be teaching, leading, and organizing but they're not.  

I don't know what the solution is.  As a minister you don't want to risk your job by rocking the boat and motivating lazy Christians by making them uncomfortable (or perhaps usin gtoo heavy a hand and making them completely resistant to doing anything you suggest ever again), at the same time you're compelled by God to do so.  


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<p>On the other hand I have noticed that people my age (say 25-30) who grew up in the church are pew potatos.  There&#8217;s a situation I know of in which a group of people that age, who grew up in the church (and their spouses did as well, though not in this particular church) and who have the talent and skills to be leaders, many of them went to Restoration Bible colleges but they don&#8217;t do anything.  It makes me want to scream.  I&#8217;d probably get fired if I were the minister there because I&#8217;d want to just scream at them.  These people should be teaching, leading, and organizing but they&#8217;re not.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the solution is.  As a minister you don&#8217;t want to risk your job by rocking the boat and motivating lazy Christians by making them uncomfortable (or perhaps usin gtoo heavy a hand and making them completely resistant to doing anything you suggest ever again), at the same time you&#8217;re compelled by God to do so.</p>
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