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Cheaters
11.9.2007 by Christian
This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen. This 33 year old woman wants Cheaters to check out her boyfriend because he seems to be more distant than he was. One of her evidences that she thinks he’s cheating is that she walked in on him when he was alone with his porn. She then goes on to say that she’s tried to be everything he sees on his pornographic movies. As the show progresses, we find out that they live together, he smokes marijuana, oh, and she’s a Christian. At this point, I went “Yuuwaaahhh?!?”
Turns out he’s cheating on her with her cousin. The show then goes to the woman so she can be debriefed on the situation. The woman has her Aunt there for support (the Aunt also goes to church). Cousin…Aunt…uh oh.
So the two women start fuming and they go with the Cheaters staff to confront the guy and the cousin…on Wednesday night…when the Aunt and woman are supposed to be in church.
In the van the host is facilitating the chase/meeting/confrontation and attempts to console the woman and her Aunt. At one point he says “Your faith doesn’t keep you from having these emotions, it’s what you do with them.” I would have liked to have heard what else he would have said but they find the boyfriend and cousin.
The woman and her Aunt catch up to the boyfriend and cousin at a carwash. The woman runs out of the car and begins yelling and cussing out her boyfriend and cousin. Then they’re yelling for a good 5 minutes how they should all be in church. All of them…with each other.
More cussing. She starts spraying the guy with the hose yelling “You need to be baptized m*ther bleep.”
More “Go to church.”
The show ends with the woman not sure what to do but still “loves” the boyfriend, the guy is sorry and wants back in and believes she’ll take him back, and the cousin doesn’t care about the woman and says she saw him first.
I should not have to point out how, specifically, wrong every part of this (except the efforts and comments of the host) are, so I won’t. If you don’t know what’s wrong with this picture, please contact me directly and I’ll share with you about sin, what God did for you a couple thousand years ago, and how He wants you to respond to Him.
If only I could show this on a Sunday morning.
November 17th, 2007 at 11:33 pm
“…they live together, he smokes marijuana…” OK. I agree that’s probably wrong, but surely you’re not suggesting their language casts doubt on the sincerity or genuineness of their Christianity. (The Apostle Paul may have used those words, but I can’t be sure since I’m not a Greek scholar–and he doesn’t list the words he considers to be “coarse joking.” 8^)>
November 18th, 2007 at 7:14 am
Keith,
You might want to check the author’s name.
November 18th, 2007 at 10:43 am
I did. Am I to assume you and Christian do not agree on this particular topic?
Christian doesn’t feel that he could “show this on a Sunday morning;” would you be able to show this to your congregation? Just asking.
November 18th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Keith,
I’m not sure how Christian feels anymore. There was a time when he wouldn’t have agreed with me at all.
November 18th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Tim, do you prefer not to answer the question: “would you be able to show this to your congregation?”
November 18th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Keith,
I have a lot of video of my son screaming incoherently at his ball. I wouldn’t show that in service to my congregation. Based on this information do I think that a baby screaming, or a child’s ball is sinful?
November 19th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Keith, why even try to reason here? I almost laughed at the logic and reasoning Tim posted in #6. Are we on the same planet here?
You asked a fair question but got a politically-framed question that only begs more questions. Oh well…
“Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.” - 2 Timothy
November 19th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Paul,
I imagine many of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said something similar when Jesus didn’t answer their questions directly.
The fact is that it wasn’t a fair question, it built into its premise the conclusion which is defined as Begging the Question, which my question demonstrated.
November 19th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Keith,
The language here absolutely is wrong, in the way they used it. And absolutely not I would not show this in church and I don’t think Tim would either not because of the language, but because it would be more of a distraction than the point/lesson is worth. It in no way would edify others or glorify God on Sunday morning. However, I would be willing to show it in certain studies if it would connect.
But frankly, I wasn’t thinking about the language when I made the final comment. I was thinking of the length of the piece among other things. You were reading into the article more than I said.
Also, your first comment deals with their genuiness as Christians and then you go off onto appropriateness of the language in the church setting. Those are two seperate things in this particular instance. The reason is that their language was used to degrade, demean, tear down, hurt, and otherwise offend the opposing party. That is absolutely wrong. Do I question their genuiness and sincerity of their christianity because of their language? No. Do I question it because of any one of those things? No. I do question it because of all of them and because of the way they talked about being in church and baptism. As if baptism and attending church was what they needed (clearly that wasn’t the case with the girl because that didn’t seem to change how she lived). Everything about the situation was wrong for a professor of the Christian faith, including the language (again, not because that language in and of itself is sinful, but because of the way it was used.)
Tim, I don’t think Keith’s question was (begging the question). I just think his understanding behind the question is flawed. If I were to ask you the same question I would probably get a straight answer (even if I had to beat it out of you.) So you answered what was behind his question apropriately enough but he didn’t see that because you didn’t connect it to the basic assumptions he held.