Kung Fu Christians

12.30.2004 by Tim Reed

Lets say you were witnessing an on-line debate between an atheist and a Christian over the existence of God. The Christian enters into evidence a series of conclusions reached by several prominent scientists, the atheist sneers, “Furthermore, as for the scientists, isn’t this the community that still claims that Kyoto will work to eliminate the imaginary problem of global warming?”. Does this strike anyone as odd?

For anyone who hasn’t kept up with the state of science this isn’t surprising at all. With (now former) atheists like Anthony Flew conceding the power of the Teleogical and Cosmological Argument in light of new cosmological findings the tension between science and Christianity is looking downright cuddly. Sure there’s still some sticky issues, much as there is with any relationship that is somewhere in the neighborhood of 450 anniversaries. But the atheistic-science-Christianity love triangle is looking more and more like a science-Christianity re-unification dinner. The really sad part is that this issue has been completely overlooked.

Just in the last few weeks we’ve been treated to Newsweek’s assault on the historicity of the Christmas story (or is that holiday story?), and the Washington Post’s front page hit piece on Intelligent Design (nicely dissected by Hugh Hewitt). But those are hardly new stories. Since the late 1800s deists, agnostics and atheists have launched an all-out attack on Christianity using science as their weapon of choice. And now, through a stunning reversal of fortunes, like some sort of kung fu master using his opponents own attacks against him Christians are using science to advance Christianity.

But the number of stories from the main stream media about this is underwhelming to say the least. Instead we get tired recycled stories that have been done to death, and are, at best, shoddy reporting. Anthony Flew eschews atheism in favor of theism, swayed by arguments generated largely by science and we get hackneyed reporting that acts like the Jesus Seminar hasn’t been gutted both in terms of membership and ideology.

Why should anyone take these publications seriously anymore? Reading the main stream media tells me far more about how the main stream media thinks than it does about what’s going on in the world.

3 Responses to “Kung Fu Christians”

  1. Ben Walker Says:

    Good stuff bro… well said.

  2. Bill Says:

    Using science to support religion or religion to support science is a contradiction. Each is self-sufficient and independent of the other. Each has its own areas of thought and work and each has its own methods. For science to try to destroy religion is ridiculous, and for religion to dictate to science is equally ridiculous. Science is the acquisition of facts and knowledge about the universe around us, using techniques that have been shown to be reliable. Religion is the determining of the means and ends and the values to be used in our lives. That, in the past, statements have been made by religious figures that are not supportable by science does not invalidate religion. It simply means the historic figures didn’t know what we know now. Religion will never trump science, just as science cannot trump religion. They are important and co-equal parts of our existance.

  3. tim Says:

    Neither one is completely separate from the other. Both are in the business of describing our universe. Science is confined to understanding the natural world by exploring natural law via observation and other means. Religion (or at least the monotheistic religions) rely on the divine intersecting with the mundane to communicate a message that, in part, describes our universe. When science was first developing theology and science were seen as two different endeavors doing the same thing. Science revealed the creator by revealing the creation. Theology revealed the creation by exploring the revelation.

    The claim that science and religion are separate and cannot interact at all is a claim that can only be made by claiming that either religion or science do not describe our universe. I’m not willing to make that claim because its so obviously false.

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