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	<title>Comments on: Personal Evangelism of the Church</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you on this issue.  For whatever reason Americans tend to adopt their minister as a surrogate evangelist.  Although I do think that is beginning to change with the adoption of house church models and an emphasis being put on small groups as method of discipleship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you on this issue.  For whatever reason Americans tend to adopt their minister as a surrogate evangelist.  Although I do think that is beginning to change with the adoption of house church models and an emphasis being put on small groups as method of discipleship.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but that changing frontier still leaves the majority of our brothers and sisters without a clue and without any education, training, and experience in evangelism or discipleship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but that changing frontier still leaves the majority of our brothers and sisters without a clue and without any education, training, and experience in evangelism or discipleship.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I disagree.  When someone begins leading a small group they quickly learn how to react to people asking questions etc.  Leadership obligations will result in either someone developing the requisite skills or failing completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I disagree.  When someone begins leading a small group they quickly learn how to react to people asking questions etc.  Leadership obligations will result in either someone developing the requisite skills or failing completely.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree and would have to say that I feel I fit into this catagory though, I try and break out of it. Can we get someone out here to teach some culturally relavent evangalism which focuses on personal evangalism rather than using the church and its programs as a mechanism for evangalism or handing out cokes or some movie? This is a growing problem. I am going to think more on this. thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree and would have to say that I feel I fit into this catagory though, I try and break out of it. Can we get someone out here to teach some culturally relavent evangalism which focuses on personal evangalism rather than using the church and its programs as a mechanism for evangalism or handing out cokes or some movie? This is a growing problem. I am going to think more on this. thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that's part of the problem.  Instead of viewing evangelism as somthing that can be formulated and seeing is only as a matter of finding a successful methodology we should be viewing it as a relational process.  There really isn't a way to "do evangelism".  There's a way to be a Christian.  That means being out among non-Christians, living a sanctified life, and being able to express Christian beliefs and defend the Christian worldview.  When Bob Russell was asked what model of evangelism they use, he replied, "We invite people to church".  Instead of viewing people as a project in which the goal is to baptize people and then move on, view people as people.  Love them, talk to them, befriend them.  ALthough I suppose that's a methodology in and of itself the only way to "be relevant" is to get out there and experience it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s part of the problem.  Instead of viewing evangelism as somthing that can be formulated and seeing is only as a matter of finding a successful methodology we should be viewing it as a relational process.  There really isn&#8217;t a way to &#8220;do evangelism&#8221;.  There&#8217;s a way to be a Christian.  That means being out among non-Christians, living a sanctified life, and being able to express Christian beliefs and defend the Christian worldview.  When Bob Russell was asked what model of evangelism they use, he replied, &#8220;We invite people to church&#8221;.  Instead of viewing people as a project in which the goal is to baptize people and then move on, view people as people.  Love them, talk to them, befriend them.  ALthough I suppose that&#8217;s a methodology in and of itself the only way to &#8220;be relevant&#8221; is to get out there and experience it.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm perhaps I wasnt as clear as I wanted or you misunderstood. What I was refering to was not the
"Instead of viewing people as a project in which the goal is to baptize people and then move on, view people as people. Love them, talk to them, befriend them"

It was the "defend the Christian worldview" or direct sharing of the gospel and defending of it. This is what I lack not totally but, could definatly use some improvment upon. I definatly agree with the dont see people as projects but, people thing though. I have been burnt by that myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm perhaps I wasnt as clear as I wanted or you misunderstood. What I was refering to was not the<br />
&#8220;Instead of viewing people as a project in which the goal is to baptize people and then move on, view people as people. Love them, talk to them, befriend them&#8221;</p>
<p>It was the &#8220;defend the Christian worldview&#8221; or direct sharing of the gospel and defending of it. This is what I lack not totally but, could definatly use some improvment upon. I definatly agree with the dont see people as projects but, people thing though. I have been burnt by that myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://churchvoices.com/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm....find a church based on what church is equipping you in the proper way.  Or you could self-educate yourself.  try &lt;a href="http://leaderu.com"&gt;http://leaderu.com&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://Christian-thinktank.com"&gt;http://Christian-thinktank.com&lt;/a&gt; either one of those r0x0r. 

But ultimately the responsiblity for finding a place that will fulfill their proper responsiblities comes down to you, although there will be quite a few ministers who have a lot to answer for.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;.find a church based on what church is equipping you in the proper way.  Or you could self-educate yourself.  try <a href="http://leaderu.com">http://leaderu.com</a> or <a href="http://Christian-thinktank.com">http://Christian-thinktank.com</a> either one of those r0&#215;0r. </p>
<p>But ultimately the responsiblity for finding a place that will fulfill their proper responsiblities comes down to you, although there will be quite a few ministers who have a lot to answer for.</p>
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